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. that was always the plan in theory. though the actual reasons it is happening is that iraq refused to give u.s. soldiers legal immunity for the reactions if they remain. a war that deeply divided the u.s., sold to us on lies couched in the fears of another 9/11. it is estimated to have cost is at least 799,948,099 so far not counting the interest we will have to pay on it. at least 4,477 died and tens of thousands more were wounded. 150,000 iraqis are estimated to have died in the war, 12, 00 of them civilians. 650,000 war-related deaths. joining us p.j. crowley, former assistant secretary of state for public affairs, under president obama. a 26-year-old veteran of the air force, the omar bradley chair and strategic leadership at dickinson college, penn state law and thank you for joining us. >> good morning, chris. >> given the costs of the war that i just reeled off. this is the iconic example of the government doing something unjust and being unable to stop it it and watching in horror as it unfolded, what was your reaction yesterday to the announcement from president obama that this was fi
or not we received the debt ceiling or not, and how can you expect people to invest in us if nobody is talking to each other. >> that's a slippery slope. how do you keep working with people not working for you. you can't criticize the president for going off the farm when they are not working with him. chlt i live in europe, and when i come back, what always surprises me is not that the republicans hate obama, it's so many of my liberal friends hate obama. >> you hangout in the wrong crowds obviously. >> you are right. >> there's a lot of disillusion, and they don't like this guy. he can make the republicans look like fools, and he is doing a good job of that. >> now. >> i think the problem of the white house is everybody looks to the president to solve the problems, and even though they hate congress and republicans more than the white house, and if things go wrong they blame the incumbents, which is the obama administration. i think that's the strategy. >> quickly, congresswoman karen bass of california is going to join us right after this. looking good! you lost some weight. you
it in the pockets of americans, and don't use it to bail out the banks, and obama is stuck in a point which i think doesn't allow him to make these claims in a way that has credibility. >> i think there is a grain of truth to that broadly, but to follow-up on that on the narrow question of this bill, which they paired down, and did it in bite sized pieces, and it's remarkable to me that this is not something that republicans wants to do. teachers, cops, firefighters, we could fire them and send a lot of people on to unemployment and cobra and all sorts of things that drains the state's coffers anyway, or we can keep them going for $35 million, which is not peanuts, but it is kind of peanuts. >> well, i might consider this as a bigger problem, but it's expensive, and when you are looking at the way the jobs bill is being packaged and presented, it's no surprise that i think you have a few democrats like the montana senator saying this is really a stimulus bill, this is not a jobs bill, and i will not be able to support this, even as a democrat if we go about this as a different way. >> the 50/50 vot
. and skeptics being deniers is backwards. >> this takes us slightly off topic, and we will circle back to romney, but the cap and trade example is perfect. i agree. opposing cap and trade as a policy does not make you a science denier, and the bigger issue is i am perfectly happy to have people on the show and i have had people on the show who say i don't think cap and trade is cost the benefit at the end of the day, and i think cap and trade is a bad policy and that's great. what i won't tolerate on the show is people who will come on and say there's no scientific consensus on global warming? >> what is the consensus. >> great, you get to stay. >> i think people say -- i will say, people mean that man is changing the planet in such a way like al gore is predicting and it is going to have gigantic sea level rises, we don't know what the climate are going to be on human living. >> that is true. we do not know. but we have a good indication. i will get back to romney. >> here is the thing that frustrates me most. if you are skeptical about religion, you are demonized, if you are skeptical about sc
around the world with almost nonviolent protest in every continent. here in the u.s. one woman arrested apparently for being in a bank. >>> right now i am joined by melissa harris perry, and columnist from my favorite magazine, "the nation," and we have the professor of studies at columbia university, and it's greats to have you back. bob herbert, "the new york times" veteran, and now a distinguished fellow and author of "promises betrayed," and then host of the majority report, and cohost of "ring of fire," ring of fire.com. you are such distinguished guest. we will start in washington where nbc news correspondent, mike viqueira, is covering the dedication of the martin luther king jr. memorial. >> reporter: from the i have a dream speech that was delivered 48 years ago, there was a phrase that serves as the theme for the memorial today, and hugh from a mountain of despair, a stone of hope. if you are fortunate enough to be down in washington, since it did open to the public in august, you see it's a massive mound of granite, and it has been moved forward towards the horizon, and then
>>> good morning from new york. i'm chris hayes. for the first time, a u.s. bishop has been indicted on charges of covering up child abuse. bishop robert finn of kansas city pleaded not guilty to charges he failed to report a police accused of taking explicit photos of young girls. >>> around the world, the "occupy wall street" demonstration is catching fire in 951 cities and towns throughout north and south american, asia, africa and europe. we have details coming up. i'm joined by kevin williamson, melissa harris perry. she also writes for a wonderful magazine called "the nation." with us is "new york times" economic reporter, katherine ramble and john fugelsteng, who has also been a guest on the show before. i want to talk to you about what is going on in the global spreading of the uprising virus as it were. i want to go to london after a relative handful of protesters started camping out, the movement is spreading worldwide. in tokyo, they marched after founding occupy tokyo based on the movement in new york. in sydney, australia, they real lid and proclaimed through me
are preparing a plan for possible use of force to remove hundreds of occupy london protesters from outside st. paul's cathedral. michael moore spoke at occupy oakland to show solidarity with wounded protesters scott son-in-law. and in new york protesters are demonstrating better fiscal responsibility than wall street itself. they have spent $50,000 and raised $450,000. right now i'm joined by heather mcgee from the washington office and senior editor of the atlantic former new york governor eliot spitzer. if you're watching at home, you are one of the best stylists on the entire internet. you're doing it wrong if you're not reading him. i want to talk about the outrageous development that came out of oakland this week which stunned me. this happened on tuesday night. scott olson who is a 24-year-old veteran of the iraq war was in the plaza. he was one of about 1,000 occupy oakland protesters gathered in the square. he served two tours. received seven medals. he had a job. and he was active in veterans for peace and iraq veterans against the war which is an activist group. and police were crac
msnbc pois come. >> that's all for now. i'm chrisman son, for ahanson. for all of us at nbc news. thanks for joining us. >>> good morning from new york, i'm chris hayes, talking about new developments incillin d syl >> rick perry said he does not think romney's religion is a cult. >>> we are going to start with the national explosion of "occupy wall street" movement. on september 16th, a few hundred people came to a tiny square in downtown manhattan with a promise to occupy wall street. we sent a producer and got mostly footage by a few dozen sleeping bags. by last week, the ranks of those participating in the event had swelled to around 1,000. the movement spread to boston, los angeles, washington, d.c., sfrae san francisco and chicago. this past week, thousands of union members and allies and others came out to join with the occupiers and the movement or protest or happening or whatever the heck it is has now spread to over 60 cities in the country, from seattle, to memphis to wichita, kansas. if not the whole world, at least the whole country is watching. they are planning an
is all around us. that's why people have been showing up in downtown manhattan. it is why they want to watch about it on the tv. in terms of what they are actually doing down there and the quests for demands or what they actually want, i think it is more helpful to think about what's going on with occupy wall street in this way. successful social movements innovate. they create new kinds of politics. this he roo he form what we think politics look like. consider this. not taking the bus is not a political act until someone makes it a political act in montgomery. burning a bra is a completely indecipherable bizarre thing to do in 1890 but by 1965 or 1970, it has a very specific and pointed meaning. even the simple act of getting married, the most mundane, private action two people can take on, has a profound and radical political meaning when those two people are of the same sex. none of these things were political acts until new movements made them into political acts. we spent a lot of time talking about steve jobs and we will talk about him later in the show. jobs had this amazing
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